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Apr 8, 2022

Welcome back to The Main Thing Podcast! I’m your host Skip Lineberg. Our special guest is an entrepreneur, psychologist and story-teller. On Episode 65 you heard 9 mins. of her wisdom. That was "The Main Thing." Today you get "The Whole Thing." In this 20-minute show, you’ll get more of my conversation with this soulful dynamo, who’s known as The Horse Whisperer. It’s a less edited, more organic version of my liberating and laughter-filled conversation with Trish Ring. You’ll learn about a life-changing trip to Africa. And you’ll discover how and why Trish became a horse whisperer. Get ready for more stories and more expansive riffs on how to avoid the trap of people-pleasing, while forging our own way.

Bio (in case you missed Ep. 65)

Dr. Trish Ring is a psychologist who has re-invented her career many times, as a therapist, a speaker, a radio-show host, a personal coach, a lifestyle guru and a horse whisperer. She is now turning her attention to writing a memoir, “By the Book: A Bible Belt Memoir of Growing Up Good and Southern.” In it, she weaves together tales of a childhood in the American South, as well as good southern yarns about family skeletons, how to believe in yourself no matter what and how to live with courage and lots of love. She comes to us today from her home in Memphis, TN. 


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Content You’ll Enjoy Inside This Podcast

[0:01] - Recap of Trish’s Main Thing

[0:25] - Intro, preview and welcome

[2:00] - Trish’s background with horses begins in Africa

[3:00] - Life-changing impact of her trip to Africa

[4:00] - Building Blue Star Ranch in North Carolina

[5:00] - A place to get off the grid, for discovery and interacting with horses

[5:55] - Horse whispering connects with Africa, psychology and writing

[6:45] - How Skip and Trish are connected

[8:08] - Trish shares her Main Thing wisdom nugget

[9:25] - Why this wisdom feels like “it’s targeted right at me” for most of us

[10:35] - Fitting-in is such a deep seated concern for so many; the psychology of it

[12:10] - Be on guard to avoid over-valuing and catastrophizing this thing

[12:30] - The lie we all need to recognize and reject

[13:05] - How rejecting the lie leads to freedom

[13:33] - Skip tries “risk taking” on for size

[14:20] - How to know if this is affecting you; over-achievers take note

[15:30] - Breaking free from the ‘hamster wheel syndrome’

[16:20] - Trish has counseled many women who share a common set of burdens

[17:00] - Control is an illusion

[17:40] - Trish serves up a smidgeon from her new book

[19:20] - Thank-you and goodbye

[19:50] - Outro

[20:10] - An appeal: your opportunity to help keep the wisdom flowing